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		<title>Countdown to the Constitution &#8211; Gerry Committee</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Philadelphia - The eleventh anniversary of independence saw the Convention at an impasse. The delegates could not agree on the question of how to structure a legislative body for the union &#8211; because all knew this decision raised the question of whether they should merely strengthen the confederation, or create a new national government in&#160;<a class="readMore" href="http://billofrightsinstitute.org/blog/2011/07/04/countdown-to-the-constitution-gerry-committee/">Read more...</a>]]></description>
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<p><strong>Philadelphia -</strong></p>
<p>The eleventh anniversary of independence saw the <a href="http://blog.billofrightsinstitute.org/2011/05/countdown-to-the-constitution-2/" target="_self">Convention</a> at an impasse. The delegates could not agree on the question of how to structure a legislative body for the union &#8211; because all knew this decision raised the question of whether they should merely strengthen the confederation, or create a new national government in its place.</p>
<p>The July 3-4 adjournment for Independence Day gave many delegates a respite from wearying debate. For eleven members of the committee chaired by Massachusetts&#8217;s <a href="https://www.billofrightsinstitute.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=798" target="_self">Elbridge Gerry</a>, however, debate continued, as they met on July 3 to discuss a practical solution to the issues that the Convention was struggling to solve. On July 4, delegates congregated at Philadelphia&#8217;s Race Street Church to hear a speech commemorating independence. On July 5, the fireworks resumed.</p>
<p><strong>The Gerry Committee Report</strong><strong> </strong></p>
<p>When the Convention resumed its business on Thursday morning, July 5, the Gerry Committee was prepared with a report. The Committee, which consisted of one delegate from each of the eleven states represented at the Convention, was asked to handle the sensitive issue of representation in a union that some still view as federal but others are trying to make national. Elbridge Gerry (who had signed the Declaration of Independence in this same city eleven years ago) rose to explain the report to the Convention. The report had three parts, which gave form to the view that had been developing of a union partly national and partly federal:</p>
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<li>The first branch of legislature will be elected by population (as the large states had called for) with states being apportioned one member for every 40,000 inhabitants.</li>
<li>All bills that raise and appropriate money will originate in the First House and shall not be amended by the Second House</li>
<li>In the second branch of the legislature each state will be represented equally.</li>
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<p><strong>Debate in the Assembly and in Committee</strong><strong> </strong></p>
<p>Gerry admitted to the Convention, after presenting the report, that it was a very thin compromise, and that Committee delegates &#8220;agreed to the Report merely in order that some ground of accommodation might be proposed&#8221;. None of the Committee members, he continued, was &#8220;under any obligation to support the Report&#8221;.</p>
<p>Nor were some of the Convention&#8217;s leading delegates inclined to support the Gerry Committee&#8217;s suggested compromise. <a href="https://billofrightsinstitute.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=553" target="_self">Mr. Madison</a> seems to have viewed the compromise as a crippling blow to the <a href="http://blog.billofrightsinstitute.org/2011/06/countdown-to-the-constitution-revised-virginia-plan/" target="_self">Virginia Plan</a>, which had been designed to combat what Madison saw as the vices of the political system under the Articles of Confederation. He rose and in a long speech proclaimed his fear that &#8220;the Convention was reduced to the alternative of either departing from justice in order to conciliate the smaller States, and the minority of the people of the U. S.&#8221; on the one hand, or of &#8220;displeasing these by justly gratifying the larger States and the majority of the people&#8221; on the other.</p>
<p>He then made the issue personal, recalling a statement made by <a href="http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_founding_fathers_delaware.html#Bedford" target="_blank">Mr. Bedford</a> (of Delaware) prior to the adjournment for Independence Day. Bedford, chafing against the nationalists&#8217; plan, had challenged, &#8220;We have been told with a dictatorial air that this is the last moment for a fair trial in favor of a good Government. It will be the last indeed if the propositions reported from the Committee go forth to the people.&#8221; Bedford seemingly taunted the large states, saying that they &#8220;dare not dissolve the Confederation. If they do the small ones will find some foreign ally of more honor and good faith, who will take them by the hand and do them justice.&#8221; Though Bedford qualified that &#8220;He did not mean by this to intimidate or alarm,&#8221; Madison responded to that comment as if it were a threat, stopping just short of calling Bedford a turncoat, and hinting that the large states might just challenge stubborn states like Delaware to choose between joining the union and courting some foreign ally. Madison lectured, &#8220;if the principal States comprehending a majority of the people of the U. S. should concur in a just &amp; judicious plan, he had the firmest hopes, that all the other States would by degrees accede to it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Other nationalists joined Madison&#8217;s offensive against the compromise. <a href="https://billofrightsinstitute.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=807" target="_self">James Wilson</a> charged that the Committee exceeded its powers (a charge that seems ironic, given Wilson&#8217;s support of the Virginia Plan, which many thought exceeded the Convention&#8217;s mandate of simply revising the Articles of Confederation). <a href="https://billofrightsinstitute.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=555" target="_self">Gouverneur Morris</a> thundered against those who acted as if &#8220;we were assembled to truck and bargain for our particular States&#8221; and warned &#8220;This Country must be united. If persuasion does not unite it, the sword will.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps sensing a concerted effort on the part of the nationalists to paint him as disloyal to the Confederation, Mr. Bedford, rose to state he had been misunderstood, and had no intention that Delaware or other small states should seek protection outside of the union. But others were not cowed by the bluster of the nationalists. Several delegates rose to offer support of the Gerry Committee&#8217;s report, or at least to a hearing of the report. None was more forceful in defense of giving the Gerry Committee report a hearing than <a href="https://billofrightsinstitute.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=554" target="_self">George Mason</a>. The surly Virginian was growing impatient, and cautioned quarrelsome colleagues that &#8220;the Report was meant not as specific propositions to be adopted; but merely as a general ground of accommodation.&#8221;  But Mason was not about to finish there, proclaiming that &#8220;he would bury his bones in this City rather than expose his Country to the Consequences of a dissolution of the Convention without any thing being done.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mason&#8217;s stern words led directly to consideration of the provisions of the Gerry Committee&#8217;s report.</p>
<p>For more detailed information on the Constitutional Convention, please visit Prof. Gordon Lloyd’s <a href="http://teachingamericanhistory.org/" target="_blank">web companion</a> to the Philadelphia Convention.</p>
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		<title>Countdown to the Constitution &#8211; Connecticut Compromise</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Philadelphia &#8211; Well over a month into the convention, the delegates are still at odds over how to settle the question of representation in the new government. All believed that the answer to this question would determine whether the states would continue as distinct political societies, or whether the new national government would form one&#160;<a class="readMore" href="http://billofrightsinstitute.org/blog/2011/06/30/countdown-to-the-constitution-connecticut-compromise/">Read more...</a>]]></description>
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<p><strong>Philadelphia &#8211; </strong></p>
<p>Well over a month into <a href="http://blog.billofrightsinstitute.org/2011/05/countdown-to-the-constitution-2/" target="_self">the convention</a>, the delegates are still at odds over how to settle the question of representation in the new government. All believed that the answer to this question would determine whether the states would continue as distinct political societies, or whether the new national government would form one political society.</p>
<p>The notion of a national government had gained enough support that the delegations accepted a national legislature that would represent citizens, not states. For some, like <a href="http://blog.billofrightsinstitute.org/2011/06/countdown-to-the-constitution-luther-martin-reality-tv-star/" target="_self">Luther Martin</a>, the Convention’s movement to this point appeared to have made an old world disappear. He “remarked that the language of the states being sovereign and independent, was once familiar and understood; though it seemed now so strange and obscure.” Others, like <a href="https://www.billofrightsinstitute.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=553" target="_self">Madison</a>, feared that the continuing attachment of some delegates to the sovereignty of the states would lead the states to perpetual war against one another.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_founding_fathers_connecticut.html#Ellsworth" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft" style="margin-left: 4px;margin-right: 4px" src="http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/images/founding_fathers/ellsworth_o_110.jpg" alt="" width="110" height="139" />Oliver Ellsworth</a>, of Connecticut, however, “did not despair. He still trusted that some good plan of government would be devised and adopted.” Declaring that “we were partly national; partly federal,” Ellsworth pushed the need for compromise. He proposed that if the lower house of the national legislature is elected on the “national principle,” the upper house should be elected on the “federal principle”. Madison reports, “He trusted that on this middle ground a compromise would take place. He did not see that it could on any other. And if no compromise should take place, our meeting would not only be in vain but worse than in vain.”</p>
<p>The following day saw even more division among the delegates. Madison and <a href="https://www.billofrightsinstitute.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=807" target="_self">James Wilson</a> argued against this compromise, challenging that it would allow a minority to overrule a majority. Madison even went so far in defense of proportional representation as to propose that one house draw its representatives on the basis of all free inhabitants, and the other on the basis of free inhabitants plus slaves. Some defenders of state sovereignty actually called for the Convention to inform the governor of New Hampshire to send its delegates (who were not present) to help defend the interests of small states.</p>
<p>Help for the resolution came from an unexpected place. North Carolina delegate <a href="http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_founding_fathers_north_carolina.html#Davie" target="_blank">William Davie</a> – who had yet to speak up during the Convention’s proceedings – agreed with Ellsworth, stating, “We were partly federal, partly national in our Union, and he did not see why the Govt. might (not) in some respects operate on the states, in others on the people.” James Wilson warmed to the idea, then <a href="https://www.billofrightsinstitute.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=797" target="_self">Dr. Franklin</a> offered warm words in support of compromise, then Madison indicated he might be open. There were dissenters on both sides, but at the end of the week, Saturday June 30, the makings of a compromise were there.</p>
<p>Davie’s support for Ellsworth’s compromise helped bring the issue to a vote. On July 2<sup>nd</sup> the resolution was defeated in a 5-5-1 tie. <a href="https://www.billofrightsinstitute.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=802" target="_self">Roger Sherman</a>, seeing the delegations equally divided, complained, “We are now at a full stop.” But he challenged his fellow delegates not to give up, and suggested giving this complicated question over to a committee to solve. The delegations agreed, and appointed one delegate from each of the eleven states represented in the Convention. Led the <a href="https://www.billofrightsinstitute.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=798" target="_self">Elbridge Gerry</a>, the Committee would spend the next several days debating the fate of state representation in the new government. With that, the Convention adjourned, leaving the delegates a chance to escape debate and celebrate the eleventh anniversary of independence on July 4.</p>
<p><em>For more detailed information on the Constitutional Convention, please visit Prof. Gordon Lloyd’s </em><a href="http://teachingamericanhistory.org/" target="_blank"><em>web companion</em></a><em> to the Philadelphia Convention.</em></p>
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